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Harassment and the Average JO

July 4, 2010 20 Comments

By Raghda Butros*

The majority of boys and girls in our society have no real contact with people of the opposite sex outside their immediate family beyond age eight, when they move to segregated schools. For boys that means no women friends, teachers, mentors, or authority figures of any kind. The women he “knows” are his family members and he views them in a certain way; the girls and women in his neighborhood are mothers and sisters of his friends, and therefore fall within the same category. The women he doesn’t know, understand or know how to deal with are absolutely everyone else.

Part of the problem of harassment stems from the issue of relating to and understanding the unknown, so that a man from a conservative community where most of the people are his neighbors and friends, would never dream of making a lewd comment about a girl or woman in his neighborhood, but feels quite free to do so in the street or in the mall or an elevator, where the woman is an unknown and unknowable entity. To his mind, the rules outside his neighborhood are different and though he doesn’t know them, he mistakenly assumes that women in this context are okay with being addressed in this way, because they are unlike the girls and women he knows, who would not be. Also, away from his immediate community, there is little reason to think he would be called out on his actions by a concerned neighbor, uncle or friend.

I do not think harassment is only an issue of repressed sexual desire.  After all, we all know for a fact that sexual harassment and abuse exists, and often to a greater extent, in the most sexually liberated of societies. I think it’s also an issue of not knowing each other and therefore not knowing how to relate to, accept, respect and live with each other as equal, but diverse, human beings. This is an issue of class and an issue of segregation at varying levels, which feed into a number of other psychosocial considerations, such as the desire to exert control, which may increase when the desired object of that control is mysterious and beyond reach.

In a debate on harassment in response to Shalabieh’s article “Breaking the Silence”, a commentator suggested that there is a difference between a compliment and an insult. While this is true, it is highly subjective and depends on the viewpoints of the receiver/victim, the giver/harasser and the society in which the situation takes place. In Italy, for example, men constantly call out to women to “compliment” them, and while some women appreciate this, others find it intrusive and offensive. What makes it acceptable, for the most part, in Italian society, is a general social consensus that it is harmless and not intended as a form of harassment or insult. This is not a view shared by everyone, and it may alter over time and as Italian society changes, but it leads us to another important point: the issue of general social consensus, which is necessary to make a society function.

To reach “a socially mature society…which will develop an ethic for shared public space that is friendly to the majority of society” as suggested by a wise commentator on the “Breaking the Silence” article, we first have to “know” each other. To genuinely interact with, understand and relate to one another so that we can reach a common vision that the majority of us would be happy to live with and abide by.

Pic 3 300x200 Harassment and the Average JOThis knowing doesn’t come from interactions where one is the service-provider and the other is the customer, nor from passing by each other in the street, but from engaging, relating, debating and building social and professional relationships with each other on a normal day-to-day basis. The knowing comes from desegregating public spaces, so that young men are allowed to mingle with and share spaces with women they would not normally come into contact with. While this may, initially, lead to some harassment, the reactions of the women, and a strict implementation of rules which control such behavior, will eventually lead to a more natural and comfortable situation for all involved. The knowing also comes from desegregating schools, at least at the level of the teaching and administrative staff, so boys and girls can relate to people of the opposite sex outside their family and neighborhood circles. It also comes from creating spaces outside school where boys and girls can come together to take part in extra-curricular activities and have the opportunity to form friendships and peer relationships.

Finally, the knowing comes from all of us making a conscious decision to move outside our comfort zones and our usual social circles and genuinely engage with and build relationships with people who are different from ourselves.

Raghda Butros is founder of Hamzet Wasel and an Ashoka Fellow.

  • ignoramus_rex

    One of the problems we are facing in our society is that we like to continuously complain about the problems we face, or perceive to face while going on with our daily lives, but we do not tend to really want to do something about it? Even when there is an excellent attempt like the article above, we shy away waiting for other to start the complaining trend.

    Acknowledging the problem is one step into the solution path, but unless there is a healthy discussion, heated and probably angry at some time, we will not be able to cross the line into the interactive public sphere of problem solving. I encourage you all to bust the myth that we, in Jordan, are used to begging and addicted to complaining.. (translated from Arabic)…

  • osama

    shall i comment in English ?
    i dont want to

    المشكلة تكمن في الطبيعة الانسانية في انو كل مجهول هو اقل مستوى
    يعني الشخص اللي بتجهلو هو اقل منك ومش بس مش بس في نطاق المجتمع الواحد
    يعني بالنسبة للشخص بمجتمعنا بامكانو بسهولة انو يهين شخص من مجتمع وبيئة ثانية بدون ما يشعر باي حرج

    اذا في مجتمع بينطبق عليه عنوان الكتاب “الرجال من المريخ والنساء من الزهرة” فهو مجتمعنا

    لكن هالمشكلة تؤدي لسلبيات اكثر من مجرد المضايقات والتحرش
    المسألة بتأدي لكبت جنسي ،شذوذ، انتشار العادة السرية، الاغتصاب، الزواج المبكر ، ارتفاع نسبة الولادات …. وكثير مشاكل من الممكن حلها فقط بان يعرف الرجل ان المرأة هي فعليا كائن عادي مثله مساوي له
    ولما تعرف المرأة انو الرجل بامكانو يكون لطيف وغير متوحش وما بعضّ

  • Saed

    Well-stated article. I agree 100%.

  • Maha

    All schools should be mixed, at least until 8th grade, in 9th grade they can start in-class segregation. Today's children need to understand gender differences and equality so they can grow into men and women who respect each other

  • daljabri

    also think economic development at any micro level is part of social development…the more we can ease people's lives by giving them their worth in productive jobs or their other potential skills their will be a corresponding ease in rigid mentalities…perhaps even an ease in social violence…isn't harassment only the lesser indicator of the mentality that can lead to domestic violence and even honour killings as 'acceptable' social norms within an evil cycle of deprivation and ignorance within pockets of poverty or disadvantage esp within such a rapid growth city and region…with all the pressures that implies to the backdrop of the increasing chasm between the haves and havenots…Tala Bay (i.e. – with all due respect to investors – or any other name…Movenpick, O Beach et al…) vs the broken neighbourhood tap to relieve heat haves? isn't this all part of the picture…the impossible to attain lifestyle it becomes easy to mock and harass via malls and other places where different social sectors interact because they come together….another i.e. chaos at elitist concerts in Roman ampitheater in midst of town – hot summer nights and all those young men with nothing in their pockets…watching the unattainable chauffered in????

  • Daljabri

    typo typo,….there will be a corresponding ease in rigid mentalities….

  • ignoramus_rex

    Well, i think the issue is really complicated, and is interlinked with all that is happening to our society at all levels. We have not, as a society, developed naturally and have not adapted to change locally and globally. Only parts, or pockets, of the society, or segments of respond to change and adapt to it. We can not really say that there is now, or has been a social policy framework where the state invested in mobilizing our social traits and strengths to build a collective shared social personality.

    If such an effort is not addressed on long term, our society will remain in limbo. No direction and no cohesion. Our reaction to existential issues like modernity, innovation, change and golbality and traditionalism will remain dependent on the general feeling and prevalent mood of the moment.

    It is important to understand that social policy doesn't necessarily mean social engineering, its a tool societies use to build societal consensus on shared values, norms and traditions. otherwise we will remain reactive and unprepared to deal with change or development.

  • Daljabri

    brilliant summation u far from ignoramus ya Rex :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/YJawhar Yousif Jawhar

    Segregation is the major element of this problem. I studied in a coed school, and I have friends who went to segregated schools, I noticed that my view is very different from theirs when it comes to girls, especially that we're living in a mostly-conservative society.

  • Daljabri

    segragated schools should be the norm but what to do with the small segment fathers who will send their sons but would rather kill their daughters???? extreme but valid in tiny socio-economic disadvantaged pockets

  • Daljabri

    and re my previous comments re investors and the disadvantaged…which is valid and pointed out in any valid economic socio-economic study of the region….if only Akram Abu Hamdan would send me an invite to the GORGEOUS 0 beach infinity pool i promise not to harass anyone for the length of my stay…aesthetic vacation on the edge of paradise…an unfortunate comment on the gap…between us and true beauty…

  • R Daher

    Well, this is a complicated issue but could also be an issue that is blown out of proportion. I first want to say that I agree with most of what Raghda had added so elegantly in her article. There is definitely a need for shared spaces between the sexist and also for more opportunities for engaging.

    I just simply have some observations that might come across of being a bit “conservative” or “not with the flow”, but I will share them anyway out of sincerity and honesty of the debate.

    - One: we are all against harassment. I still think that most harassment from men addressed to women in our Jordanian context is harmless and does not reach alarming rates (similar to what I know of in the US for example). I could be wrong as I was never been on the receiving end of harassment here. But in general, and from what I have seen, most young men would immediately stop the harassment if they are confronted with the phrase: Would you do or say the same thing to your sister or mother?”

    - Two: The “Abu Antar” Character: I think we have all seen episodes of Ghawar and Abu Antar when we were kinds. In many cases, the persons doing the harassment fit the Abu Antar model which I think is in need of more research, specially in terms of how it evolved within the past 20-30 years or so. I believe (or maybe I have a naïve trust in good nature of people in our society) that much of the negative energy found in that character could be (with the right tools and approach) re-directed for other constructive things.

    - Three: I do not think that this problem could be attributed simply to having a more segregated society between the sexes. The problem's more complicated than that. In Amman, and I have no idea why; young men are always accused of being “hamal”, and with bad intensions before even doing anything which over the years had created some sort of alienation or frustration amongst this segment of our society. I was there once. Let me take a comparative example from even a more conservative society (or maybe equally conservative): Damascus. There, I feel that even with the segregation and conservatism, men and women deal with each other with more ease than in Amman. And this judgment is not based on soap opera experiences.

    - Fourth: I do agree with Raghda about the need of more shared spaces within our cities. I have to stop a bit on the notion that the solution is co-ed Schools. I think that more research needs to be done here:
    - I attended an all-boy school and I did not (together with my friends) feel that we had difficulties dealing or engaging with fellow female students once we went to college at the U of Jordan in the 80s.
    - My kids attend co-ed schools now, and I personally complain about the lack of male figure teachers in their lives. They are taught mainly be female teachers and while many of them are great, boys do need good male authority figures in their lives. I am not being sexist here, I am telling you honestly what my kids feel and what I and their mother feel sometimes.
    - By the way, there is a lot of research out there that is questioning co-ed teaching environments at certain levels (even in western societies) and also for certain topics (e.g., math and literature). This research recommends that segregated classes should start after a certain age due to peer pressure (e.g., after puberty around the ages of 12 or 13). This research also recommends segregation in certain topics such as math where it has been proven that female students perform better in an all girl environment in math. Also male students perform better in an all male environment in other topics such as literature.

    Fifth: What about increasing subtle sexual harassment in the other direction (from girls targeting young men). Unfortunately, I have not encountered that type of harassment in a long, long time probably due to my extraordinary large physique and mature age; but I hear from many people that it happens and it is on the rise in our society. And in general, I hear that young men do not react against it as it would be considered, due to peer pressure in society, not manly enough.

    Well, I am sorry for my long comment, but I hope it was helpful. Finally, thanks Raghda for, and again, a wonderful piece.
    Sincerely
    Rami Daher

  • Saed

    I definitely agree with you. But in such a case I currently really don't have any idea about what we should do. But partially it's increasing areas where people would actually mix together? Or somehow editing the education program to inclue something that would create more mixing between different classes?

    It would probably cause a huge ruckus in the beginning then work out.

  • raghdabutros

    Rami, thank you for your well-considered and very interesting response. I agree that it is a very complicated issue and there are no quick fixes. I also agree that co-ed education has its disadvantages, but I was referring primarily to desegregating teaching staff at public schools, so that both boys and girls deal with teachers and administrative staff of the opposites sex.

    I believe that in the case of boys schools in Jordan, this would go a long way in easing and softening the high-testosterone atmosphere in these schools which often leads to aggression both from the teachers and the students. It would also go a good way towards making the school environment more pleasant, since currently, many boys schools look and feel about as welcoming as a juvenile detention center.

    As for co-education, this is a long and complex debate and I am not an expert by any means in what is better for students in this regard. I have been to both single-sex and co-ed schools and felt that neither was the reason I felt comfortable dealing with people of the opposite sex. I believe this was more to do with my upbringing at home than anything else.

    The issue is that while we may have attended single-sex schools in Amman, we had many other opportunities to engage with children of the opposite sex as part of a our extra-curricular and family life, which the vast majority of public school kids in Jordan do not have.

    Thanks again and I look forward to debating this issue further with everyone who took the time to respond and particularly those who disagree with me. :)

  • Saed

    Now that you mention it, I think the biggest impact would be the student's life OUT of school.

    I think the parents are responsible. I mean the children ask their parents stuff and how they end up being is how their parents reply. And that reply just reflects in their actions in the future. An obvious example would be how the parents interact with eachother and how they deal with other people of the opposite sex. It's just like it has been mentioned, a lot of the older generation of Amman were in single-sex schools, yet they do not discriminate nor harass others.

    And I know this next point will sound stupid, but if a father teaches his son how to umm.. “hit on women” (excuse me if that offends anyone, it is not intended to) the right way, then the son would probably learn from that, rather than primitively hit on women.

  • Sowt.

    We won't reach anywhere if we keep calling them co-ed schools. Segregation is never the answer, never has worked, never will, and as long as it remains an option on the table, we will have people of the mindset described above, who subscribe to the idea that women don't have the right to be in certain places.

    The entire chain of causation is wrong, We say we treat men and women differently because they're different, while in fact men and women are different because we treat them differently.

  • Sowt.

    We won't reach anywhere if we keep calling them co-ed schools. Segregation is never the answer, never has worked, never will, and as long as it remains an option on the table, we will have people of the mindset described above, who subscribe to the idea that women don't have the right to be in certain places.

    The entire chain of causation is wrong, We say we treat men and women differently because they're different, while in fact men and women are different because we treat them differently.

  • MH

    “We say we treat men and women differently because they're different, while in fact men and women are different because we treat them differently”.

    This. A hundred times this! Brilliantly said :)

  • MO

    In all these articles there is one problem no one is considering. There is no movements or actions or gathering of people to change something BECAUSE we lack a civil society because the arab world is one big dictarship including jordan. So how can a person care about womens-rights or animal righs and etc.. When the biggest Right HUMAN RIGHTS is severely suppresed. If we had such a thing called Freedom and Human rights, I think alot of Social problems would be solved quickly

  • Tan Kasim

    I attended a coed school, too, so that I would learn to work with boys as well as girls, who attended the same classes as I did. However, it depends on whom you work – and eventually click – with. I got along with some boys in some classes and most boys from the school I attended respected the girls.