Jordan: Untouched Myths Block the Road to Full Democracy


Photo by Salem Husseini

A quick look at the Arab world today enables us to reach a simple conclusion; that almost every Arab country is shaping a political discourse underpinned by what observers call “identity politics”. 

By May S

In Lebanon, it is largely the religious sect you belong to that identifies your political preferences. In neighboring Syria, observers are warning against a civil war between the different religions and different sects within these religions if the regime collapses, which indicates how sectarianism is shaping the political discourse as well.

Jordan is not an exception. While the entire Levant region was considered a unified land prior to Sykes-Picot agreement, the “divide-and-rule” doctrine took its toll on the political discourse in the region in the second half of the nineteenth century onwards, largely based on ethnical divisions.

However, chauvinistic voices that seek to further disenfranchise citizens and deprive them of their constitutional rights, irrespective of their identity, are relying on numerous myths that are cited to endorse their argument against fellow citizens. Very often, these voices are loud and present in the public sphere, while very few voices attempt to correct the inaccurate comparisons and distorted historical facts.

The following are some examples of the common stereotypes and myths that need to be shattered if Jordan ever wishes to break out of the “identity politics” that cannot safeguard its stability forever.

 

How Jordanians of Palestinian origins acquired citizenship 

A common stereotype, held by chauvinistic people and others who lack the necessary knowledge on the topic, tends to believe that “Jordanians sympathized with Palestinians and granted them citizenship as a favor, because they were homeless”.

This view ignores the fact that Jordanian citizenship was granted to every Arab who was living in the areas of Palestine, which were under the rule of the Jordanian Arab Army in 1949, with the exception of Jews. In 1950, those areas, which came to be known as the West Bank, and the East Bank of the River Jordan formed one country and fell under the rule of one regime and one parliament.

The decision of unity came as a result of the vision of King Abdullah I, the founder of the Kingdom, to achieve Arab unity under the Hashemite rule and the unity with the West Bank was seen as a starting point. A prominent Jordanian lawyer, who studied the issue thoroughly, affirmed that not even a single Palestinian individual applied for the Jordanian citizenship. It was granted to these people by default, as Jordan believed in the unity at the time and amended the Nationality Law at a later stage to adjust to the changes. According to this narrative, which is documented and known for lawyers and rational politicians, Jordanians of Palestinian descent are citizens with full rights and duties and not “transit passengers” who were granted citizenship as a “gift”.

Based on these facts, dismissing the advocacy for equal political rights for everyone and saying that “if Jordanians of Palestinian origins interfere in political affairs, then Egyptian laborers or foreign investors may also want to interfere” are complete nonsense, as the first group represents citizens, while the others are “expats”.

From this perspective, we cannot accept a comparison between the refugees in Syria and Lebanon and others in Jordan. While this comparison may hold some water, if we talk about refugees who do not hold citizenship status, it is completely inapplicable to Jordanian citizens of Palestinian descent.

A religious leader, based in Jerusalem, has recently addressed Jordanians of Palestinian descent in Jordan and asked them “not to interfere in Jordanian affairs and reform process”. He has reminded them that they live in better conditions, when compared to refugees in Syria and Lebanon. The religious leader seems to fall in the same trap and ignore the fact that they live in better conditions because they shall be treated as “citizens”, whereas they have not been granted this status in the other countries. Asking them to keep away from politics is negating their constitutional rights.

 

Black September perceived as a ‘civil war’ 

The fact that these events, which came to be known as ‘Black September’, have never been documented in an impartial unbiased manner has contributed to the crisis. In fact, students never get to know what happened in 1970 and are exposed to biased interpretations that further awaken grudges and hatred. The so-called ‘civil war’ does not appear in our curriculums and our media in an unbiased manner and we only get to hear about it in the statements and discourses of chauvinistic people who refer to it as a ‘civil war’, when facts indicate it was not perceived as such.

The Jordanian army, back in 1970, was comprised of ‘East bankers’ and those who were of ‘Palestinian descent’ and the Fedayieeh were also composed of members of different creeds. This means that it could not have been a civil war but rather a confrontation between two ideologies and people who wanted the monarchy and others who preferred another form of regime.

Today, many chauvinistic views depict “Palestinians” as “traitors”, because of their “attempt to overthrow the regime in 1970”. However, this view is largely mistaken, because the confrontation was not between “Jordanians and Palestinians” as I have explained above and it also takes matters out of their context by simplifying the issue and neglecting the political ideologies that prevailed at the time.

Based on this distorted narrative, many of these people oppose re-integrating Jordanians of Palestinian origins in the security forces and the army, claiming that they cannot “trust these people”. This belief stands in the way of achieving full equality among the citizenry in Jordan.

 

Allocating each ethnicity a sector creates the ‘balance’ 

Generally speaking, Jordanians of Palestinian origins are allowed to start businesses freely and dominate the private sector, while East bankers dominate the public sector, the army and the security forces. This so-called ‘balance’ has been perceived by many as a recipe of stability in the country, while in actuality, it only deepens the rift and the identity crisis.

Citizens who pay taxes and perform all of their duties as citizens expect to have a fair representation that does not treat them as an “ethnic bloc” but as equal citizens. The private sector does not create the “allegiance” that these same forces believe “Palestinians” lack and the political logic stipulates that a taxpayer gets to know where his/her tax is spent and is entitled to have a say in his/her country’s affairs. Thus, the distinction between economic and political rights does not make sense to a ‘citizen’ who pays taxes and abides by the country’s rules and regulations.

 

The dual allegiance is an obstacle 

If you ask Jordanians of Palestinian origins about their home countries, they are likely to mention both “Jordan and Palestine” or in some cases only one of these countries. This is attributed to the several historical factors that have shaped the identity of the two states and the historical relations and geographic proximity.

However, chauvinistic forces do not accept this “dual allegiance” and force people to choose between two equally important components of their identity in order to practice political rights. I still find it surprising to some extent that Circassians, for example, are not forced to make this “tough decision” and they freely declare allegiance to Jordan and their Circassian roots and identity.

 

Tribalism and allegiance to the country are used interchangeably

Being a member of a tribe is one thing and having a blind allegiance that supersedes allegiance to the country at large, commonly referred to as ‘tribalism’,  is a totally different one. The problem is exacerbated when ‘tribalism’ and allegiance to the country are used interchangeably and when the two concepts are believed to be interconnected, while they are actually contradictory.

If you are blinded by ‘tribalism’, it means you are not loyal enough to the country because you are harming the national interests. Thus, it becomes nonsense if you claim that you are ‘too loyal’ and cite the fact that ‘you belong to tribe X’ and cherish ‘the tribal values and the tribalism’ that characterize the Jordanian society.

A former Jordanian official employed his relatives in the municipality that he headed and had them registered for salaries that were paid from the public money. His relatives did not actually work at the municipality and they only showed up at the end of the month to receive their salaries. This Jordanian official, who resembles many other officials, probably thinks he is serving his tribe and would defend his loyalty to Jordan by proudly declaring he belongs to this tribe, but in fact, he is harming the very same country he claims he is loyal to when he abuses his power and the public money at his disposal.

 

Selective response and selective identification of threats 

Examples are abundant on incidents whereby the same threat generated different reactions. When the Islamic Action Front (IAF), the political arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan, was attacked by opponents and its headquarters were attacked a few weeks ago, it was reportedly threatening to form ‘militias’ to protect members, as the state allegedly does not do enough to protect them.

The statement is undoubtedly condemned, regardless of the source. However, another group of so-called ‘loyalists’, who were apparently fed up with demonstrations and protests calling for reform, staged a sit-in and declared that they were ‘ready to form tribal militias’ and ‘help the state revoke the citizenship of those protestors’. This insult was happening before the eyes of policemen who were there thanking the group for their ‘loyalty’.

I still cannot understand why the IAF’s militias were seen as a threat and infuriated the public opinion and the members of the Parliament, while the ‘tribal militias’ were apparently accepted by the police forces. I fail to understand how one group threatens the “public security”, while the other one “preserves it”. It also shows how easy it can be to tamper with “citizenship” and threaten to revoke it at any time, when this is clearly unconstitutional.

These are just a few examples of common myths and stereotypes that continue to plague the national debate. As long as we do not address them in our curriculums and media, a true reform will remain a fantasy!

 

An edited version of this article appeared in Babelmed.




  • Maysam Rawashdeh

    I find it contradicting to see you agree with the fact that the ”Levant region was considered a unified land prior to Sykes-Picot agreement, the “divide-and-rule” ”, then see you mention below, Palestinian descent and east bankers. At the end, the Sykes-Picot agreement has indeed took its toll on you (several reference are made below to justify that statement). All the points discussed below were quite biased and did not stem from a unified Arab Levant region point of view, but rather from an extremist side that depicts vulnerability of, what you constantly claim, Palestinian descent. 
    The “Dual Allegiance” part, are you comparing Circassians with Arab? Are you meaning to say that comparing their ethnicity is similar to that of comparing ethnicity of Jordanian’s with Palestinians. 

    Then, you mention “Allocating each ethnicity a sector creates the ‘balance’”, again you are referring to them as an ethnic group that is not associated with Arab. Furthermore, all tax payers have the right to have hand in their country’s affairs. I cannot see how any group of people affiliated with any sector has more rights than another, in other words, the rights are not fully reflected in decision making either way, which is why reform is under the way and is a collective effort. Maybe you are not part of it since you dwell over the mentioned above ideas.

    At the “How Jordanians of Palestinian origins acquired citizenship” you mentioned “A prominent Jordanian lawyer, who studied the issue thoroughly, affirmed that not even a single Palestinian individual applied for the Jordanian citizenship” Are there any reference to that? I find it absurd to mention such a statement without referring to any credible sources.

    At the end I respect your own point of view, as the mentioned above barely addresses historical facts. However, I assume it was not the objective of the article given the contradicting title as “Myths” but not justified by facts. 

    • guest

       hi i want to address 2 small points first your saying that comparing circassinas with arab is wrong because palestinian and jordanian are both arabs so thy are the same ? yet you say that palestinian is not the same as jordanian ? the man clearly talks with the point if you compare palestinian with jordanian its the same as circassian and jordanian and that is a valid point after all thy do carry the ADIGE flag so thy are loyal to there home land just as thy are loyal to jordan but you say that if a palestinian descent is loyal to both palestin and jordan that is wrong ? and my second point is can you references that any palestinain applied for a jordanian citizenship if so why is it that most who came from gaza dont have jordanian papers well anyway all the guy wants is for everyone to work together for a better jordan and ignoring the problems will not solve them

  • Maysam Rawashdeh

    I find it contradicting to see you agree with the fact that the ”Levant region was considered a unified land prior to Sykes-Picot agreement, the “divide-and-rule” ”, then see you mention below, Palestinian descent and east bankers. At the end, the Sykes-Picot agreement has indeed took its toll on you (several reference are made below to justify that statement). All the points discussed below were quite biased and did not stem from a unified Arab Levant region point of view, but rather from an extremist side that depicts vulnerability of, what you constantly claim, Palestinian descent. 
    The “Dual Allegiance” part, are you comparing Circassians with Arab? Are you meaning to say that comparing their ethnicity is similar to that of comparing ethnicity of Jordanian’s with Palestinians. 

    Then, you mention “Allocating each ethnicity a sector creates the ‘balance’”, again you are referring to them as an ethnic group that is not associated with Arab. Furthermore, all tax payers have the right to have hand in their country’s affairs. I cannot see how any group of people affiliated with any sector has more rights than another, in other words, the rights are not fully reflected in decision making either way, which is why reform is under the way and is a collective effort. Maybe you are not part of it since you dwell over the mentioned above ideas.

    At the “How Jordanians of Palestinian origins acquired citizenship” you mentioned “A prominent Jordanian lawyer, who studied the issue thoroughly, affirmed that not even a single Palestinian individual applied for the Jordanian citizenship” Are there any reference to that? I find it absurd to mention such a statement without referring to any credible sources.

    At the end I respect your own point of view, as the mentioned above barely addresses historical facts. However, I assume it was not the objective of the article given the contradicting title as “Myths” but not justified by facts. 

    • guest

       hi i want to address 2 small points first your saying that comparing circassinas with arab is wrong because palestinian and jordanian are both arabs so thy are the same ? yet you say that palestinian is not the same as jordanian ? the man clearly talks with the point if you compare palestinian with jordanian its the same as circassian and jordanian and that is a valid point after all thy do carry the ADIGE flag so thy are loyal to there home land just as thy are loyal to jordan but you say that if a palestinian descent is loyal to both palestin and jordan that is wrong ? and my second point is can you references that any palestinain applied for a jordanian citizenship if so why is it that most who came from gaza dont have jordanian papers well anyway all the guy wants is for everyone to work together for a better jordan and ignoring the problems will not solve them

  • Maha

    you are trying to dispel myths that have been chewed over and over with more myths , consider these facts.

    Unity only existed under the empire! and only administratively, cities were part of different local governments at different times. Nables and El Salt were both in قضاء البلقاء, at one point Nables reported to Damascus. On the East bank you had tribes, the tribes agreed to allow a hashemite prince to rule them even after their initial armed resistance. without their allegiance there will be no kingdom, but even with the مبايعة القبائل in reality it was a British mandate that strong armed the people into accepting the prince. Jordanians are those who lived in Jordan when it was created, those who lived in this land before it had a name, before Hashemites,before English, before Palestnians.The crazy Bedouins might still be living in tents and fighting over water if they weren’t united but hey they are the lords of the land. The king every year greets those bedouins on every holiday because they made his grandfather their king and they keep the peace with مبايعة. outdated sure …but that’s how kingdoms work. 

    Those tribes have given their land and children and resources to make this a kingdom not for everything to be sold off and privatized and for “jordanians of palestinian origins” and the hashemites to squander it all, so don’t preach about tribes not having the best interest of the country. i can name many palestinians who got rich in jordan and built mansions but not a single one who has built anything useful in a refugee camp! Jordanian corruption cases are was6a o ma7soobeyeh (helping their own) not stealing millions out of the treasury and aid money. A thief is a thief but some see themselves as robinhoods or use the rhetoric this is the fruit of my land and i if i don’t take back the “öthers” will steal it   

    In 1988 the “unity” between Jordan and Palestine was dissolved, citizenship was not withdrawn from Palestinians, they were allowed to keep it if they were withing Jordan’s borders,even though the Arab League never approved or recognized the unity in the first place or considered Palestinians Jordanians, and in 1974 it recognized the PLO as the SOLE representative of Palestinians everywhere.Palestinian refugees who betrayed Kuwait and were kicked out were taken in as a humanitarian case and are now dealing with تصويب اوضاع.  

    The Palestinians,those who betrayed Jordanians who took them in, are backstabbing traitors who wanted to take over the country, that’s black September! and that’s Not a myth! The Palestinian militia tried to inflict the same atrocity on Jordanians that they suffered from,a refugee community trying to take over the land hosting them, isn’t that what the Jews did in a nut shell? It wasn’t a clash of ideologies or a revolt of the people. This is Jordanian land that they’re sharing with Palestinians, if Palestinians chose to betray it then they will forever remain second class refugees, instead of being grateful many Palestinians speak with hate and disgust of jordan and Jordanians such as this example (one of many) :
    باختصار يا تافه الاردن هو بادية فلسطين انتم الدخلاء ونحن اصخالب الار ض الاصليين اخرجوا يا بدوان يا حثالة البدو انتم ومطاريد الشوام مثلا ابناء الكلب ال الذهبي ارجو من فلسطين وحذاء باسم عوض الله اشرف من رأسك وراس ال الذهبي جميع ورأس كل بدوي معفن اردني اللي هما عالة علينا وعلى ونا ورأس هزاع الكلب المجالي ووصفي التل الغبي خرى عليكوا كلكوا عاش شرق فلسطين عاش عاشت الاردن للفلسطينين جميعا ولا مشكلة لدينا مع الحكم الهاشمي مشكلتنا مع حثالة البدو والشوام والشركس الدخلاء على ارضناThese are the myths that Palestinians need to dispel, you are not chosen people (the jews beat you to that) don’t seek retributions from Jordanians, and stop looking down on the people who have been more generous to you than you have ever been to each other, if the Jews are not attacking you, you are attacking each other in your Holy land!!! the bedouins fought the sharkas over water springs and resources, but took in Palestinians with open arms, a sharkasy still has more loyalty to this land than Palestinians. Until we stop reading $hit like the above comment Palestinians are not equal to Jordanians and their loyalty to the country is questionable.

    The Palestinians living in Jordan should look at their history and look at their tragedy,it was up to them to protect their land not the neighbors or their “arab brothers”, the ideology of Arab brotherhood was a work of literature when Palestine was occupied, it has always been command and conquer none of the pan arabism ideals were ever a reality but the common language. wake up, read your history, own up to it, you lost a war,you are nothing special and no one is, the history of humanity, specifically this region, in the past 100 years is nothing but a disgusting disgrace to all groups involved. 

    One last note regarding the title, who said we want democracy anyways? it doesn’t exist and has failed epiclly in every country, you should all be calling for rule of law without it all government models are corrupt. 

    • just a reader

       well i am rather confused how you took allot of time to think of all of this and sadly without one fact as i really go board from you rant i will reflect on some points that did catch my eye  so to start :

      1- are you kidding me you dont want the corruption to stop you must be ether delusional or making a hefty profit out of this (you know some cash under the table and all that and family favors) did you see the state MOST east Jordanian’s are living in ( ya3ni as the advocates for stupidity call them iben el balad ) just go to zarqa and spend some time there i did for 10 years so i know how bad it is for lets say bani sa5er :)

      2- as for loyalty to jordan :) i didnt see west jordanians raise the saudi flag over the skys of ma’an

      3- (Palestinian refugees who betrayed Kuwait) i will go with an internet memi with this one Dafaq are you saying how did the palestinian refugees ( whom had Jordanian passports at the time ) betray kuwait i just want to know who spoke in the name of the palestinian nation if you like to betray kuwait who coz of there really nice actions with Iraq provoked them to walk in ( no thy didnt invade thy walked it invasion needs some one to fight back )

      4- ( Arab League never approved or recognized the unity in the first place )
      pleas read the members names to your self then hit your head to the wall coz your stupid here you have the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League its
      Transjordan and this is what the map looked like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transjordan_%28Bible%29 and the name came from there as well

      5- your rant on some one calling out the dogs and the god knows what ( the guys who are now ether in jail of going there ) so by calling them for what thy are you are pissed off hemmmmmmmmmmmmmm yep tribe before Jordan as for the rest of the rant well trust me idiots are everywhere thy even let them go online ;) and can you pleas post then name of the person you quoted as same as you i herd some one from tafeleh saying all the shamalat are @$%^$#^&@%$#^% and something to that line :) was drinking tea with him as well and told me how its best to send them to Syria     god i love it when ppl start to make shit up 

      6- and lastly as i dont want to spend more time picking holes in your ridiculous post el badu al ru7al are extremely intelligent ppl and with there words if you ask any of them thy never did own land ( thy are called badu ru7al for a reason ignoramus ) thy where given the land to buy there loyalty to the government and who will say no to that :) and thy sold it as thy wished ( sold abudon and rabyeh to our muslim brothers from the north the Circassian who sold it or invested in it later on )

      at the end all i can say as i really dont care for some one that has no intelligent to look for a moment for some facts god your stupid and your kind is the only kind that is dragging jordan down i love jordan what jordan needs is for everyone to get there heads out of there ;) and work together to have a place where lots of bright minds will not have to run from and work in duwal el 5aleej i am proud to have jordan as a part of my and my hart and im proud to have Palestin in my blood  its only a shame that your so stupid that you dont want to even be part of the holy lands where jew from all over the world wish to be and your only concern is el 3ashereh  

      god bless jordan and bless the bright minds it made as for your kind i feel sorry for jordan to have to call you its children

  • Maha

    you are trying to dispel myths that have been chewed over and over with more myths , consider these facts.

    Unity only existed under the empire! and only administratively, cities were part of different local governments at different times. Nables and El Salt were both in قضاء البلقاء, at one point Nables reported to Damascus. On the East bank you had tribes, the tribes agreed to allow a hashemite prince to rule them even after their initial armed resistance. without their allegiance there will be no kingdom, but even with the مبايعة القبائل in reality it was a British mandate that strong armed the people into accepting the prince. Jordanians are those who lived in Jordan when it was created, those who lived in this land before it had a name, before Hashemites,before English, before Palestnians.The crazy Bedouins might still be living in tents and fighting over water if they weren’t united but hey they are the lords of the land. The king every year greets those bedouins on every holiday because they made his grandfather their king and they keep the peace with مبايعة. outdated sure …but that’s how kingdoms work. 

    Those tribes have given their land and children and resources to make this a kingdom not for everything to be sold off and privatized and for “jordanians of palestinian origins” and the hashemites to squander it all, so don’t preach about tribes not having the best interest of the country. i can name many palestinians who got rich in jordan and built mansions but not a single one who has built anything useful in a refugee camp! Jordanian corruption cases are was6a o ma7soobeyeh (helping their own) not stealing millions out of the treasury and aid money. A thief is a thief but some see themselves as robinhoods or use the rhetoric this is the fruit of my land and i if i don’t take back the “öthers” will steal it   

    In 1988 the “unity” between Jordan and Palestine was dissolved, citizenship was not withdrawn from Palestinians, they were allowed to keep it if they were withing Jordan’s borders,even though the Arab League never approved or recognized the unity in the first place or considered Palestinians Jordanians, and in 1974 it recognized the PLO as the SOLE representative of Palestinians everywhere.Palestinian refugees who betrayed Kuwait and were kicked out were taken in as a humanitarian case and are now dealing with تصويب اوضاع.  

    The Palestinians,those who betrayed Jordanians who took them in, are backstabbing traitors who wanted to take over the country, that’s black September! and that’s Not a myth! The Palestinian militia tried to inflict the same atrocity on Jordanians that they suffered from,a refugee community trying to take over the land hosting them, isn’t that what the Jews did in a nut shell? It wasn’t a clash of ideologies or a revolt of the people. This is Jordanian land that they’re sharing with Palestinians, if Palestinians chose to betray it then they will forever remain second class refugees, instead of being grateful many Palestinians speak with hate and disgust of jordan and Jordanians such as this example (one of many) :
    باختصار يا تافه الاردن هو بادية فلسطين انتم الدخلاء ونحن اصخالب الار ض الاصليين اخرجوا يا بدوان يا حثالة البدو انتم ومطاريد الشوام مثلا ابناء الكلب ال الذهبي ارجو من فلسطين وحذاء باسم عوض الله اشرف من رأسك وراس ال الذهبي جميع ورأس كل بدوي معفن اردني اللي هما عالة علينا وعلى ونا ورأس هزاع الكلب المجالي ووصفي التل الغبي خرى عليكوا كلكوا عاش شرق فلسطين عاش عاشت الاردن للفلسطينين جميعا ولا مشكلة لدينا مع الحكم الهاشمي مشكلتنا مع حثالة البدو والشوام والشركس الدخلاء على ارضناThese are the myths that Palestinians need to dispel, you are not chosen people (the jews beat you to that) don’t seek retributions from Jordanians, and stop looking down on the people who have been more generous to you than you have ever been to each other, if the Jews are not attacking you, you are attacking each other in your Holy land!!! the bedouins fought the sharkas over water springs and resources, but took in Palestinians with open arms, a sharkasy still has more loyalty to this land than Palestinians. Until we stop reading $hit like the above comment Palestinians are not equal to Jordanians and their loyalty to the country is questionable.

    The Palestinians living in Jordan should look at their history and look at their tragedy,it was up to them to protect their land not the neighbors or their “arab brothers”, the ideology of Arab brotherhood was a work of literature when Palestine was occupied, it has always been command and conquer none of the pan arabism ideals were ever a reality but the common language. wake up, read your history, own up to it, you lost a war,you are nothing special and no one is, the history of humanity, specifically this region, in the past 100 years is nothing but a disgusting disgrace to all groups involved. 

    One last note regarding the title, who said we want democracy anyways? it doesn’t exist and has failed epiclly in every country, you should all be calling for rule of law without it all government models are corrupt. 

    • just a reader

       well i am rather confused how you took allot of time to think of all of this and sadly without one fact as i really go board from you rant i will reflect on some points that did catch my eye  so to start :

      1- are you kidding me you dont want the corruption to stop you must be ether delusional or making a hefty profit out of this (you know some cash under the table and all that and family favors) did you see the state MOST east Jordanian’s are living in ( ya3ni as the advocates for stupidity call them iben el balad ) just go to zarqa and spend some time there i did for 10 years so i know how bad it is for lets say bani sa5er :)

      2- as for loyalty to jordan :) i didnt see west jordanians raise the saudi flag over the skys of ma’an

      3- (Palestinian refugees who betrayed Kuwait) i will go with an internet memi with this one Dafaq are you saying how did the palestinian refugees ( whom had Jordanian passports at the time ) betray kuwait i just want to know who spoke in the name of the palestinian nation if you like to betray kuwait who coz of there really nice actions with Iraq provoked them to walk in ( no thy didnt invade thy walked it invasion needs some one to fight back )

      4- ( Arab League never approved or recognized the unity in the first place )
      pleas read the members names to your self then hit your head to the wall coz your stupid here you have the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League its
      Transjordan and this is what the map looked like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transjordan_%28Bible%29 and the name came from there as well

      5- your rant on some one calling out the dogs and the god knows what ( the guys who are now ether in jail of going there ) so by calling them for what thy are you are pissed off hemmmmmmmmmmmmmm yep tribe before Jordan as for the rest of the rant well trust me idiots are everywhere thy even let them go online ;) and can you pleas post then name of the person you quoted as same as you i herd some one from tafeleh saying all the shamalat are @$%^$#^&@%$#^% and something to that line :) was drinking tea with him as well and told me how its best to send them to Syria     god i love it when ppl start to make shit up 

      6- and lastly as i dont want to spend more time picking holes in your ridiculous post el badu al ru7al are extremely intelligent ppl and with there words if you ask any of them thy never did own land ( thy are called badu ru7al for a reason ignoramus ) thy where given the land to buy there loyalty to the government and who will say no to that :) and thy sold it as thy wished ( sold abudon and rabyeh to our muslim brothers from the north the Circassian who sold it or invested in it later on )

      at the end all i can say as i really dont care for some one that has no intelligent to look for a moment for some facts god your stupid and your kind is the only kind that is dragging jordan down i love jordan what jordan needs is for everyone to get there heads out of there ;) and work together to have a place where lots of bright minds will not have to run from and work in duwal el 5aleej i am proud to have jordan as a part of my and my hart and im proud to have Palestin in my blood  its only a shame that your so stupid that you dont want to even be part of the holy lands where jew from all over the world wish to be and your only concern is el 3ashereh  

      god bless jordan and bless the bright minds it made as for your kind i feel sorry for jordan to have to call you its children

  • Guest

    Haters gonna hate 

  • Guest

    Haters gonna hate 

  • يسار القطارنة

    اعتقد ان المقالة (بالرغم من افتقادها لادوات التحليل العلمي ) تطرح نقاط هامة طالما عرفناها ولكن قلما ناقشناها باطار موضوعي وبناء يخلو من التجريح ويهدف الى ايجاد ارضية مشتركة تخدم مصالحنا كمواطنين بغض النظر عن اصولنا او مرجعياتنا

  • يسار القطارنة

    اعتقد ان المقالة (بالرغم من افتقادها لادوات التحليل العلمي ) تطرح نقاط هامة طالما عرفناها ولكن قلما ناقشناها باطار موضوعي وبناء يخلو من التجريح ويهدف الى ايجاد ارضية مشتركة تخدم مصالحنا كمواطنين بغض النظر عن اصولنا او مرجعياتنا

  • Ismael

    This was and will always be an ongoing, pointless and unhealthy debate, especially if the responses use myths to counter alleged myths, and resort to bad language or to playing word tricks.

    If the participants were of an age group that lived the incidents rather than the aftermath, then it’s really sad that after all these years one cannot let go of an outdated mentality of division rather than seek reconciliation.

    If, however, they were of an age group that had the experience “passed down” to them, then things are actually getting worse… folk are growing up suspicious of each other and full of ammunition against each other for a thing they were never part of.

    It is sad to think that a child, yet unborn, is a disloyal traitor or a glorious patriot.

    History, as well as today’s world, if full of lessons on what not to do. The ironic thing is that every group of people say: ‘but we are different,’ while they actually aren’t; or say ‘it’s the others who need to change,’ and it becomes a waiting game of suspicion and exile.

    I am sorry but until someone counters and argument with a better argument, then the most objective and well mannered side wins the audience.

  • Ismael

    This was and will always be an ongoing, pointless and unhealthy debate, especially if the responses use myths to counter alleged myths, and resort to bad language or to playing word tricks.

    If the participants were of an age group that lived the incidents rather than the aftermath, then it’s really sad that after all these years one cannot let go of an outdated mentality of division rather than seek reconciliation.

    If, however, they were of an age group that had the experience “passed down” to them, then things are actually getting worse… folk are growing up suspicious of each other and full of ammunition against each other for a thing they were never part of.

    It is sad to think that a child, yet unborn, is a disloyal traitor or a glorious patriot.

    History, as well as today’s world, if full of lessons on what not to do. The ironic thing is that every group of people say: ‘but we are different,’ while they actually aren’t; or say ‘it’s the others who need to change,’ and it becomes a waiting game of suspicion and exile.

    I am sorry but until someone counters and argument with a better argument, then the most objective and well mannered side wins the audience.

  • http://twitter.com/gbzidan G.B. Zidan

    Thanks you! Doubt anybody will actually listen, though, knowing how they think. But thank you for this great article, nevertheless.

  • http://twitter.com/gyonis Ghassan Yonis

    Thanks you! Doubt anybody will actually listen, though, knowing how they think. But thank you for this great article, nevertheless.