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يا سيد ان الشرف ليس في الموت الشرف في الغاية التي نموت لها فمن دافع عن وطنه وعن شرفه وعرضه وعن حقه وارضه ومات يقاتل الغاصب هو فقط من يفهم مش شكلك اعتقد انك من الذين زاروا البنك المركزي العراقي قبل ان تغادر العراق وصدف انك اقترضت كم مليون ….عجيب هو الزمان يا رويبضه

Oh look avoid giving evidence for your childish unfounded antisemitic claims yet again. Should I be surprised at this point?

I haven’t done anything because am not a 1948 Zionist and pretty much even If I was a Jewish Zionist chances are I would be a second generation or a third generation Israeli who also hasn’t done anything.

Is there a reason you insist in calling me Jewish though? because even though am Arab I don’t actually find it insulting to be called Jewish, on the contrary, so your barking is kind of wasted on me.

As I said time and time again, Jews aren’t savage like Arabs and Muslims and do not kill or attack people because God said so like Muslims continue to do today,  the majority of them do not even bother with the ancient teachings of their bibles, Einstein was Jewish and if he lived today in an Islamic country he would get his head cut off for openly not believing in God.  Once you get that in your tiny brain you’d understand the vast difference between Israel and sorry self.

While Jordanian want to murder atheists and gay people in the majority because for the most part they are savage Muslims who continue to rely on ancient religion and morality to guide their sorry lives, Jews would never ever not in a million years do the same or want to do the same because they are obviously much smarter and are a better people, it doesn’t matter what the bible says because nobody supports its awful portions whereas Muslims glorify and continue to support theirs. Thats why there are Gay pride parades every year in Israel and there are even openly gay rabbis.

So your argument is useless unless you can show us that Jews still follow their Torah to the letter and support all the awful portions, your argument that the bible gives a green light to them is completely worthless, I bet most of them haven’t even bothered reading it.

Had the Arabs not started a war to kick the Jews into the sea and slaughter them as their leaders both in the military and in the political scene openly bragged about (I can give you the quotes if you want) nobody would have been kicked. And the Jews wouldn’t have had to defend themselves. Moreover had the Arabs not persecuted and humiliated the native Jewish populations for centuries ever since they came from their peninsula (after cleansing it from jews ofcourse) to occupy and colonize the middle east under their own savage teachings, and had they finally not kicked them in the end, Israel would probably have more Arabs than Jews right now. Considering the majority of Israel today is made up of those million kicked Jews from the Arab world.

Jews in the middle east suffered far more under Arab Muslim hands than Palestinians ever had. I actually count myself as an ant- Zionist but considering the savage alternative (at least for the time being) am certainly pro Israeli.

Am not arguing for Zionism as much as I’m showing how much of a hypocrite your average pro Palestinian Arab is. 

Also please choose a nickname and stick with it. You’ve used like what, 8 different names by now?

Again, you do not give me proof that either Herzl or Jabotinsky publicly in the first Zionist congress claimed they want to starve Arabs, murder and kick them. Because like most Arabs you’re an idiot antisemite who believes anything that a guy who failed tawjhi and has a beard tells you.

Herzl and Jabotinsky are two men (seriously do you not know of any other?) even if you can prove that either said what you claim they have and am yet to see any evidence of that (you know what that is don’t you? I know the stereotype that Arabs are a bunch of idiots who live in tents and bed their precious goats is mostly true ;D) but come on, you surely must of heard of ‘evidence’ before?, you can’t actually say thats what the whole Zionist movement envisioned after all Einstein was a Zionist too and he was against racism and he had contact with Palestinians and published his theory relativity in the Arab world as  an exclusive to a Palestinian newspaper he used to write in.

There aren’t 400,000 refugees in one camp, Palestinian refugees numbered around 700 thousand most of them now are probably dead or are very old my grandfather is the only refugee in my family and hes 94, their children are not refugees. Their children are nationals of the country they were born in, no other refugees can give refugee status to their children except Palestinians who are hardly special in any way.

But that of course is to be blamed mainly on Arab savages who wanted and openly proclaimed they were going to slaughter all jews, had they accepted to live in peace NO ONE would have been kicked and Israel will probably have had an arab majority by now. 

heres a few of your savage leaders talking about the war they started, the war that was responsible for creating those refugees
Azam Pasha, Arab League Secretary General 
“This will be a  war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the crusades.” this is like the ultimate Islamic wet dream lol.

Ahmed Shuqeiri (he later became a hero and leader of منظمة التحرير الفلسطينية)
“the surviving  Jews would be helped to return to their native countries, but my estimation is that none will survive”

Haj Amin al huesinni who was the the Palestinian leader at the time
“Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor ”

Sadly for your convoluted and twisted savage honor which now thankfully is limited to occasionally murdering women who speak to a grocery store worker or a girl that wears makeup, you failed and Jews survived and prevailed yet another thing jews are better at than arabs fighting 1 to 40 lol, sadly in the process of this savage war of extermination started by stupid arabs who believed and continue to believe today that they’re some sort of great power who just needs another Salah al Deen to go live the glory of slaughtering Jews, Arab civilians left and were displaced, either because they were afraid they might get caught in the fighting or like many of them including all of my friends’ families who left because they were promised that the armies will slaughter all jews and then they can return, because of leaders like the
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri who Said:  “We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down.”

This ofcourse doesn’t mean there weren’t any war crimes committed by zionist troops, it just puts things into perspective, I think its amazing how relatively little war crimes were committed considering how savage their enemies were and how intent they were on exterminating them.

Lol, my obsession? you have to be kidding me, it was yourself that kept bringing up those two men probably because you’ve never heard of any other ‘zionist’ and like your average ignorant Arab, you read less than 18 pages per year. But am glad that at least now you bothered to bring up some quotes or more accurately famous misquotes to support your silly lies.

First though, you should know by now that Israeli history is far brighter than Arab history and is not nearly riddled with as many crimes and and war crimes as well as crimes against humanity that continue in almost every Arab country today where basic freedoms like freedom of speech, freedom of religion or even equal rights for women are still considered western and Zionist evil plots attacking Islam lol, I mean we are speaking about countries like Jordan and Morocco who recently both shared with the world two amusing stories about raped women being forced to marry their rapists as to protect their owners and their societies convoluted concept of honor. I will maintain that Jewish history is far better than that of Arabs at any point in time and I doubt even you would dispute that. I mean look at whats happening today (that is besides the countless crimes against humanity that are law in most Arab and Islamic countries),. .Look at your Islamic Spring and what it has brought so far, look at Syria,  Syrians alone in one year and 4 months have killed 19000 people 
and the death toll is increasing on a daily basis, contrast that with the number of both Palestinians and Israelis killed since 1948 in the Israeli Palestinian conflict, both israeli and Palestinian fatalities together are less than 20 thousand, (check wiki’s page titled Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its sources, if you dispute that I would be interested in your sources and numbers),  these deaths increased significantly on both sides when Palestinians resorted to terrorism during the intifada. Or contrast that with the 20 thousand people killed in a month by Jordan during Black September. Unlike Syria and Jordan though Israel does not intentionally target civilians and thus the significantly small death toll, it obviously kills much less people, because it targets mainly terrorists, and much of those thousands of people are just that, terrorists who resort like cowards to hiding behind civilians very openly resulting in collateral civilian deaths. And the thing is even though the death rate is incredibly low all things considered, there wouldn’t be any deaths if Arabs renounce terrorism and stop fantasizing about slaughtering jews with the help of talking gardaq trees and silly reckoning days.

Secondly; about those quotes or misquotes; I actually refered to your Herzl misrepresentation in my previous posts on here but since you bring it up I should give the whole quote to show how manipulative and deceitful your average Palestinian propogandists are 

For the Herzl quote; it is taken from his private diary not from the first congress like you claimed moreover it obviously doesn’t say that he wants to starve people to death like you again lied, and as proffesor 
Efraim Karsh  notes;
“Herzl’s diary entry makes no mention of either Arabs or Palestine, and for good reason. A careful reading of Herzl’s diary entries for June 1895 reveals that, at the time, he did not consider Palestine to be the future site of Jewish resettlement but rather South America. ”

Heres the full entry; 

When we occupy the land, we shall bring immediate benefits to the state that receives us. We must expropriate gently the private property on the estates assigned to us. We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our country. The property owners will come over to our side. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discretely and circumspectly. Let the owners of immovable property believe that they are cheating us, selling us things for more than they are worth. But we are not going to sell them anything back.It goes without saying that we shall respectfully tolerate persons of other faiths and protect their property, their honor, and their freedom with the harshest means of coercion. This is another area in which we shall set the entire old world a wonderful example. …Estate owners who are attached to their soil … will be offered a complete transplantation–to any place they wish, like our own people. …If this offer is not accepted either, no harm will be done. … we shall simply leave them thereboth previous quotes are taken from CAMERA’s article jsut google the quote for the original citations.This is hardly someone who wants to kill, kick or starve people like you lied, in fact he is a much more decent human being than pretty much every Palestinian and Arab leader of that period even up until today I cannot think of a single Palestinian leader that is more decent of human being than him, but considering that slaughtering Jews is still a mainstream Arab fantasy and killing people to stop their freedom of religion is a current Arab reality its not like he has any competition on the Arab side even today. On the Jewish and Zionist side there have been much better leaders and people than him, like again Eisenstein but he sadly didn’t have as much influence.As for Jabotinsky, he was obviously on the extremist end of things and as you know there is no Greater Israel Today not because Israel couldn’t squash the silly arab armies and kick all people living there but because as even your source claims he was shunned by mainstream Zionists but even he and his extremism (relative to mainstream Zionism) tames compared to your average Arab leaders that I quoted previously who all openly stated their plan to slaughter all the jews, he; ”In 1934, for example, Jabotinsky’s Revisionist Party prepared a draft constitution for Jewish Palestine that put the Arab minority on an equal footing with its Jewish counterpart “throughout all sectors of the country’s public life.” The two communities were to share the state’s duties, both military and civil service, and enjoy its prerogatives. Jabotinsky proposed that Hebrew and Arabic should enjoy equal rights and that “in every cabinet where the prime minister is a Jew, the vice-premiership shall be offered to an Arab and vice versa.” Vladimir Jabotinsky, The Jewish War Front (London: Allen and Unwin, 1940), pp. 216-7. taken from http://www.meforum.org/711/benny-morriss-reign-of-error-revisited#_ftn23 of course Benny Morris is the guy who gave only half of the first Herzl misquote, misrepresenting it.As I said in my earlier posts while revisionist Zionism is extremist it is not surprising why it came to be, considering the savage terroristic reality the jews were faced by and continue to face today am actually more impressed with Israelis today because the ideology is not supported by most Israelis today and wasn’t mainstream in the past.I mean they are facing these people;”This will be a  war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the crusades.”  considering this war of extermination was started by Arabs to do just that, I can’t say i feel sorry that the Arabs lost..”as for your stupid refugee math, the right of return does not end with the death of the first generation of victims”. Actually it does, there is no such thing internationally as a second generation refugee, a refugee Only UNRWA and only Palestinians are counted as refugees in their second and third generation, there are a million Jews kicked from the Arab world,  their descendants today are not refugees. Get it? its not too hard of a concept to grasp.”If that were the case,  you have no argument with the Germans”like I said am not Israeli or Jewish, but I agree thankfully Germany today is among the biggest allies of Israel in Europe, that’s where Israel gets its Nuclear submarines ;d ”anymore. Also if your moronic logic is applied, every ZioNazi-like state in the world would just expel any unwanted ethnic or religious group then wait for the death of the first generation of victims to escape any legal and moral liability. the Geneva convention is clear on your ZioNazi war crimes. There’s no statute of limitation on the rights for victims of Zionist armed robbery and their descendants. ”Israel didn’t kick them, only a minority of them were kicked by soldiers, most became refugees because their leaders told them to leave like the quote from the Iraqi leader I showed you clearly states all my friends’ grandparents left because of that, the rest left because they were scared because of the war, most of the people who stayed and agreed to live peacefully are now Israeli citizens, with there descendants they make up 20% of all Israelis, the druze who were persecuted by Arabs agreed to live in peace with jews and now they openly serve in the Israeli army, in fact there are special units for them. Hence the belief in the Arab world that 48 Palis are “traitors”.  Had the Arabs not started the war and agreed to live in peace ALL of them would not have had to leave for any reason. And would have probably made up a big majority of Israeli citizens today. It sucks that this Arab war of extermination was started by them, it sucks that most of them believed their leaders when they told them to leave and wait for the slaughter, it sucks for you and your antisemtic ilk that they failed to push jews into the sea but it was not something Israel did, it was something that was self inflicted. As for second and third generation refugees and right of return please give me proof that the Geneva convention includes those. It would be easy to do  and please don’t waste my time with entire random sites and silly excuses of wheels and inventing as if an Arab can invent anything lols, the laws are easy to find on the internet so it’d be easy to provide them.