Failed Leadership

الإثنين 29 كانون الأول 2008


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Written By: Musa Al-Shuqairi

Hamas form of resistance failed to achieve substantial results and placed the population it presided over in an impossible situation. Leaving the heavy-hearted emotions and condolences aside for a moment, one cannot help but wonder what was/is the Hamas leadership plan (hoping they have one). 
So assuming that Hamas is sticking to the resistance route (a route that has unlimited support, despite the huge suspicions about the commitment of the Islamic political factions to it), doesn’t resistance need a clear plan with: (a) Objectives (b) Execution methods and (c) Potential calculated results, to qualify as a legitimate resistance movement?


Going through the Hamas trail of thoughts, the resistance latest (and sole) technique of firing home-made rockets (whatever those are) supposedly serve the following purposes:

– Announcing to the Zionists that we are committed to the route of military encounters and armed struggle to free our homeland, and we are willing to fight relentlessly.


– Creating fear and causing discomfort among Zionists and breaking their “security myth”. (Enforced by our own myth that security is a priority to the Zionist state…but that’s a different story).
(Other suggestions from Hamas insiders are also welcomed…)


Now, notice how these objectives are highly “emotional” – (Sends a message and breaks a myth). The Zionists are not really suffering any significant material losses. They may try to overreact to entice compassion, but ON THE GROUND, there are minimal gains achieved in our favour. 
In reality, the whole Hamas resistance strategy is really vague and from a military point of view can be even considered arbitrary and weak. Anyone claiming otherwise needs to measure the situation by war parameters (casualties inflicted and grounds gained). The emotional stuff is great, but in ground battles emotional gains and cries of “we will fight till the last man” do not carry much significance (a fact that has already been proven by the courageous battles and endless martyrs from Beirut to Jenin). Until Zionist settlers start packing their stuff and permanently evicting Palestine, the Hamas objectives are not being met.

This is not even an effective resistance in the Hizbollah mode – a series of qualitative operations with set objectives, that targets Zionist army personnel, backed up by the most organized form of guerrilla fighters, who are equipped with state of the art combat weaponry. Hamas leadership despite all the rhetoric has FAILED to create a competent resistance (regardless of the reason) beyond arbitrary rockets and militia parades, yet insisted on staying trapped in the no-man zone.

Hamas leadership has failed miserably in managing the struggle with the current miserable variables. Here are the facts that we are being continuously reminded of by the wailers on all media outlets:

1- The Zionists are a brutal immoral entity that will take any and every opportunity to mercilessly slaughter Palestinians. They are always willing to use beyond excessive force, and they have the means to do so.
2- The Zionists have the absolute green light from the Americans, to do whatever they want.
3- The Zionists have the absolute green light from all the Arab leaders, and they are in complete coordination with the all the neighboring Arab states and the so-called Palestinian authority.
4- There is no such thing as the “international community”, “the united nations” “the world human conscious” or the “peace loving countries” – as proven by the Iraq situation.
5- There is no such thing as the “Arab street”, and the collaborating Arab regimes are not going to be toppled overnight by the Arab mobs outraged by the scene of a child torn in half. A shake of the head and a sheikh spitting into a megaphone is the epitome of the Arab street motion (Also learnt from Iraq).

It seems very clear that those in charge (and pretty much everyone else) are aware of those trivial facts, so with that said what is the strategic benefit (philosophy) behind firing rockets? Pride and courage? And how are you going to gain compassion of the (non-existent) international community and Muslim world (obviously your main plan) when the non-stop footage keeps showing martyrs in uniform?

Was it a gamble by a political party clinging to its newly-found power or a part of a universal plan that will take the armed struggle to a whole new level? At least 300 souls are hoping it is the latter.

  • Great analysis Musa and I am in total Agreement. Beyond the emotions comes this reality of a failed form of resistance that only cause massive loss of life it its final result.

  • Great analysis Musa and I am in total Agreement. Beyond the emotions comes this reality of a failed form of resistance that only cause massive loss of life it its final result.

  • Well reasoned and written. Israel’s outrageous acts should not stop us from thinking.

  • Well reasoned and written. Israel’s outrageous acts should not stop us from thinking.

  • laila

    Musa,

    With the siege on Gazza, what other forms of militant resistance are you expecting hamas to actually do?

    with arabic countries preventing any smuggling for weapons was it egypt or jordan in our last scenario that took place last year against those accused of smuggling weapons inside the occupied land.

    Hamas form of resistance is their doable effort, and they are outstanding themselves taking into consideration the numbers they lost in their leadership, militant leadership, political leadership and fighters crew.

    el jabahaa el sha3byeh, with abu 3ali killing and Sadat kidnap and arrest lost their entire power though they did just before Sadat arrest the only recent important operation against Israel and killing the minister.

    So, if you are to talk logic and reason about assessing the resistance version Hamas provided you must not display an argument missing the whole analysis perspectives.

    btw, using your same logic the whole intifadet el 7ejaraa wave ten years ago and more should have received even more severe critic because those kids that mainly shaped the resistance for that era caused death for hundreds in the face kids throwing rocks.

    Its very important to not be driven by emotions , but this time the emotions that are leading your line of speech is another stab in the back of resistance. not the emotions driving people supporting hamas, as the only resistance power in palestine.

    because we are at a very citical point, you have issues with the resistance shape, support an alternative but don’t participate in killing the only hope.

    thats at least, for me, the spirit of dialectic that your article is trying to supply.

  • laila

    Musa,

    With the siege on Gazza, what other forms of militant resistance are you expecting hamas to actually do?

    with arabic countries preventing any smuggling for weapons was it egypt or jordan in our last scenario that took place last year against those accused of smuggling weapons inside the occupied land.

    Hamas form of resistance is their doable effort, and they are outstanding themselves taking into consideration the numbers they lost in their leadership, militant leadership, political leadership and fighters crew.

    el jabahaa el sha3byeh, with abu 3ali killing and Sadat kidnap and arrest lost their entire power though they did just before Sadat arrest the only recent important operation against Israel and killing the minister.

    So, if you are to talk logic and reason about assessing the resistance version Hamas provided you must not display an argument missing the whole analysis perspectives.

    btw, using your same logic the whole intifadet el 7ejaraa wave ten years ago and more should have received even more severe critic because those kids that mainly shaped the resistance for that era caused death for hundreds in the face kids throwing rocks.

    Its very important to not be driven by emotions , but this time the emotions that are leading your line of speech is another stab in the back of resistance. not the emotions driving people supporting hamas, as the only resistance power in palestine.

    because we are at a very citical point, you have issues with the resistance shape, support an alternative but don’t participate in killing the only hope.

    thats at least, for me, the spirit of dialectic that your article is trying to supply.

  • Context

    * Israeli government has been starving Gaza. Since 2006, the humanitarian situation of Gaza has been declining drastically due to the Israeli closure and siege of the area. According to the UN:
    o 56 percent of Gazans are classified as ‘food insecure’
    o 76 percent of Gazan households are must accept some humanitarian assistance
    o At least 60 percent of Gazans in poverty rate by international standards
    + See the U.N. report here
    * Israel’s arsenal of more than 200 F-16s is second only to the U.S.
    o From 2001-2005 alone, Israel received $10.5 billion in Foreign Military Financing in addition to
    $6.3 billion U.S. arms deliveries
    o Most notably, Israel bought 102 Lockheed Martin F-16s ($4.5 billion deal) in 2006
    + See the full report here at the World Policy Institute
    * The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated places on earth
    o 1.5 million Palestinians
    o 139 square miles (360 sq km)
    o 25 mi long and 4-7.5 mi wide
    * Israeli government (ultimately) controls all borders and seacoast of Gaza

    December 24-26:

    * Israeli Foreign Minister (and candidate for PM) spent the week traveling around to gain ‘approval’ for an Israeli military attack on Gaza–meeting with several Arab leaders including Egyptian President and others.
    * Many governments have been briefed and coached in advance, despite what they seem to be saying in the attack aftermath
    * December 26, Ehud Barak, Israeli minister, opens the borders to Gaza (something demanded by the U.N. for months) and allows 40 trucks of supplies to enter (five trucks of supplies were donated by the Egyptian president’s wife) in preparation for the attack

    December 27, 2008:

    * At least 225 Palestinians killed
    * More than 700 wounded

    * 2 waves of air strikes
    * Hit 40 targets in 3-5 minutes
    * 60 Israeli warplanes used
    * More than 100 tons of bombs
    o Source: Haaretz

    * Reporters have been banned from entering Gaza.
    o Source: Washington Post
    * Israel is beginning an ’emergency’ multi-lingual public relations campaign through its foreign ministry to justify the attack–in major channels in Arabic, Italian, Spanish, and German.
    o Speaking in English at a press conference Saturday, Livni said Israel “expects the support and understanding of the international community, as it confronts terror, and advances the interest of all those who wish the forces of peace and co existence to determine the agenda of this region.”
    + Source: Ha’aretz
    ——————————
    MUST READ ARTICLES
    Ali Abunimah on the latest attack: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10055.shtml
    Dr. Eyad Sarraj eyewitness account: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/27/gaza-attack-eyewitness

  • Context

    * Israeli government has been starving Gaza. Since 2006, the humanitarian situation of Gaza has been declining drastically due to the Israeli closure and siege of the area. According to the UN:
    o 56 percent of Gazans are classified as ‘food insecure’
    o 76 percent of Gazan households are must accept some humanitarian assistance
    o At least 60 percent of Gazans in poverty rate by international standards
    + See the U.N. report here
    * Israel’s arsenal of more than 200 F-16s is second only to the U.S.
    o From 2001-2005 alone, Israel received $10.5 billion in Foreign Military Financing in addition to
    $6.3 billion U.S. arms deliveries
    o Most notably, Israel bought 102 Lockheed Martin F-16s ($4.5 billion deal) in 2006
    + See the full report here at the World Policy Institute
    * The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated places on earth
    o 1.5 million Palestinians
    o 139 square miles (360 sq km)
    o 25 mi long and 4-7.5 mi wide
    * Israeli government (ultimately) controls all borders and seacoast of Gaza

    December 24-26:

    * Israeli Foreign Minister (and candidate for PM) spent the week traveling around to gain ‘approval’ for an Israeli military attack on Gaza–meeting with several Arab leaders including Egyptian President and others.
    * Many governments have been briefed and coached in advance, despite what they seem to be saying in the attack aftermath
    * December 26, Ehud Barak, Israeli minister, opens the borders to Gaza (something demanded by the U.N. for months) and allows 40 trucks of supplies to enter (five trucks of supplies were donated by the Egyptian president’s wife) in preparation for the attack

    December 27, 2008:

    * At least 225 Palestinians killed
    * More than 700 wounded

    * 2 waves of air strikes
    * Hit 40 targets in 3-5 minutes
    * 60 Israeli warplanes used
    * More than 100 tons of bombs
    o Source: Haaretz

    * Reporters have been banned from entering Gaza.
    o Source: Washington Post
    * Israel is beginning an ’emergency’ multi-lingual public relations campaign through its foreign ministry to justify the attack–in major channels in Arabic, Italian, Spanish, and German.
    o Speaking in English at a press conference Saturday, Livni said Israel “expects the support and understanding of the international community, as it confronts terror, and advances the interest of all those who wish the forces of peace and co existence to determine the agenda of this region.”
    + Source: Ha’aretz
    ——————————
    MUST READ ARTICLES
    Ali Abunimah on the latest attack: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10055.shtml
    Dr. Eyad Sarraj eyewitness account: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/27/gaza-attack-eyewitness

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  • Fresh

    History shows that Hamas came to power after a fair election. Their agenda was simple, get an alternative path to what the previous party failed to do – namely get peace and form an independent functioning state.

    The previous party failed to get those by using their methods, not only that, but it was clear that they were not gathering any attention from the Israeli side, and so Palestinians decided that they want an alternative.

    But why did they choose Hamas? It was for the same reason you say they failed, with the “Sends a message and breaks a myth” agenda, Hamas WERE ABLE to get Israel’s full attention.

    Through the cries we’ve seen over the past few days of aggression, the people in Gaza seem to be satisfied with their choice, pledging to back there leaders – and I’m quoting you – till the last man.

    As for your comparison to Hezbollah, I think you didn’t consider the big picture, your main focus points of comparison were tactics and equipment; I think being able to design and deploy any sort of weapon and hide it and launch it from various places while you are under siege and in a sector full of enemy spies needs a high form of tactical skill and organizing. And what if their main weapon is belief? History has shown that having a solid convection in your belief is the main component you need to succeed in getting an occupying force off your land! While ammo run out and equipment malfunction, belief can keep you fighting, even when what’s left with you is a sketchy rocket, a stone, a shoe, or just your bare knuckles.

    Musa, I am not saying that Hamas didn’t commit any mistakes after they assumed power, but nothing they did can justify saying anything against them in the time that they are fighting not only for their lives, but for your honor and mine. Don’t be like the the Druze leader Walid Junblat who launched verbal attacks on Hezbollah while they were forcing off another wave of Israeli atrocities, when we all know that the acts of Hezbollah gained both moral and substantial victory not only for Hezbollah, but for the entire Lebanese people, including Junblat himself!

  • Fresh

    History shows that Hamas came to power after a fair election. Their agenda was simple, get an alternative path to what the previous party failed to do – namely get peace and form an independent functioning state.

    The previous party failed to get those by using their methods, not only that, but it was clear that they were not gathering any attention from the Israeli side, and so Palestinians decided that they want an alternative.

    But why did they choose Hamas? It was for the same reason you say they failed, with the “Sends a message and breaks a myth” agenda, Hamas WERE ABLE to get Israel’s full attention.

    Through the cries we’ve seen over the past few days of aggression, the people in Gaza seem to be satisfied with their choice, pledging to back there leaders – and I’m quoting you – till the last man.

    As for your comparison to Hezbollah, I think you didn’t consider the big picture, your main focus points of comparison were tactics and equipment; I think being able to design and deploy any sort of weapon and hide it and launch it from various places while you are under siege and in a sector full of enemy spies needs a high form of tactical skill and organizing. And what if their main weapon is belief? History has shown that having a solid convection in your belief is the main component you need to succeed in getting an occupying force off your land! While ammo run out and equipment malfunction, belief can keep you fighting, even when what’s left with you is a sketchy rocket, a stone, a shoe, or just your bare knuckles.

    Musa, I am not saying that Hamas didn’t commit any mistakes after they assumed power, but nothing they did can justify saying anything against them in the time that they are fighting not only for their lives, but for your honor and mine. Don’t be like the the Druze leader Walid Junblat who launched verbal attacks on Hezbollah while they were forcing off another wave of Israeli atrocities, when we all know that the acts of Hezbollah gained both moral and substantial victory not only for Hezbollah, but for the entire Lebanese people, including Junblat himself!

  • The only failure I see is in writers like you, people who sit in their houses and blame the resistance for trying to achieve their rights. What is their plan? it is simple, to live free or die trying.

    People like you were always weak and loosers and would not believe that south lebanon could be liberated by a bunch of fighters.

    Well, there are some people like you in the arab countries, no wonder palestine is still occupied since 60 years.

  • The only failure I see is in writers like you, people who sit in their houses and blame the resistance for trying to achieve their rights. What is their plan? it is simple, to live free or die trying.

    People like you were always weak and loosers and would not believe that south lebanon could be liberated by a bunch of fighters.

    Well, there are some people like you in the arab countries, no wonder palestine is still occupied since 60 years.

  • prof ethan

    when Palestinian militants launh rocket attacks from civilian areas, they are themselves responsible–and no one else is–for the civilian deaths caused by Israeli counterfire”

  • prof ethan

    when Palestinian militants launh rocket attacks from civilian areas, they are themselves responsible–and no one else is–for the civilian deaths caused by Israeli counterfire”

  • Bravo Musa! You said it all. Why can’t we learn to fight wisely? Why do we have to play on the cords of religion and race to gain popularity?

  • Bravo Musa! You said it all. Why can’t we learn to fight wisely? Why do we have to play on the cords of religion and race to gain popularity?

  • Musa

    The observer,
    The points made above has nothing to do with Hamas or its usage of religion to recruit and mobilise . Although this is an issue of debate, the above argument applies to any faction who presents itself as a government that carries the resistance project, assumes power based on that, then fails to put its population in the best position to achieve the project goals. Then, proceeds to blame others for its failures.

    prof ethan,
    The risk one takes when writing the above article (especially at such times) is to open the doors for people like you to come up with ignorant excuses for the Zionists massacres. Please save the Zionist propaganda and Fox News cliches for a different place.

    Fresh,
    “Their agenda was simple, get an alternative path to what the previous party failed to do”….
    That is exactly the problem. While Hamas presented itself as a “resistance alternative”, their current tactics suggest that the true objective is for Hamas to replace the current Palestinian Authority on the negotiations table, and to carry on in the project of the people they have been calling traitors since 1993. (But of course, and for some reason, they are convinced that they will be able to achieve better results!)

    “what if their main weapon is belief”
    …Not to undermine any populations’ will and sacrifice , but “belief” without a strategical plan and devices to execute is good for moral gains only (hey a 1000 people dies, but they believed…so it should not be considered a loss!) – a stage that we ought to have surpassed by now.
    “Fight them with your nails” speeches (to quote the late King Hussein in 1967) are great for Friday prayers and demonstrations, but on the ground you need a plan – one that takes into account your environment and resources. That is when all the sacrifices and belief star being poured into an end-result.

    “Fighting …. for your honor and mine”
    There is nothing more disgraceful and shameful than helplessly watching the Palestinian people offer more sacrifices – arbitrary sacrifices that will not even lead to political gains, let alone ground gains even on the long haul.(Although as I said above I hope this is not the case). I hardly feel any honour and pride when I watch my people easily targeted.

    “Don’t be like the the Druze leader Walid Junblat”
    This also part of the risk I took (although I was hoping for comparisons to the Saudi and Jordanian Kings (and really fearing a comparison to Salleh Gallab)). I clearly explained why the Hizballah colloquial does not apply here at all. To quote Hizballah “The era of defeats is over”. And as a supporter of the resistance path – I demand a resistance project that is capable of Hizballah-like results – at least.

    Laila,
    Finding a feasible form and tactic for the resistance is the role of those who claim to be the guardians of the resistance project. It should not be breaking news for Hamas that Egypt and Jordan are not going to support it (Again, blaming external forces for the failure of your plan – even though the “elements” are beyond obvious).
    The effort itself is not the thing being questioned here, but unfortunately the size of sacrifices alone does not make for a successful resistance.

    There is no reason to assume that my argument denies that the armed-struggle and the resistance is the only way to go. On the contrary, my only point is when is our armed-struggle would mount to a level where it can be considered serious, beyond speeches and masked-men parades??

    The two examples of resistance you mentioned back up my point completely:
    The Zeevi operation is exactly the type of resistance I am talking about: a well-planned high-impact operation (casualties: Zionists:1 Palestinians: 0) with actual results and very few press-conferences to celebrate it. A painful hit to the Zionists on every level.
    The 1987 Intifada was the prime example of a popular resistance movement WITH MINIMAL RESOURCES. There was no Kalashinkovs waving, no home-made rockets and no men in uniform. That does not mean that the Zionists did not punish it brutally (again, that’s never an issue). The timing and tactics lead to considerable gains to the Palestinian cause – moral AND materialistic gains . (And that can be a debate for some other time). Either way, it is illogical to stage comparisons (whether to Hizballah or other former examples from the first intifada to the London blitz and Stalingrad) when the the circumstances and environment they are taking place in are drastically different. The political leadership’s role is to evaluate those circumstances and devise an appropriate strategy to deal with it.

    “another stab in the back of resistance”
    “don’t participate in killing the only hope”
    is simply emotional rhetoric (another form of futile resistance)
    better saved for Jazeera screaming guests and Hamzah Mansour
    The argument was just a different perspective ….

  • Musa

    The observer,
    The points made above has nothing to do with Hamas or its usage of religion to recruit and mobilise . Although this is an issue of debate, the above argument applies to any faction who presents itself as a government that carries the resistance project, assumes power based on that, then fails to put its population in the best position to achieve the project goals. Then, proceeds to blame others for its failures.

    prof ethan,
    The risk one takes when writing the above article (especially at such times) is to open the doors for people like you to come up with ignorant excuses for the Zionists massacres. Please save the Zionist propaganda and Fox News cliches for a different place.

    Fresh,
    “Their agenda was simple, get an alternative path to what the previous party failed to do”….
    That is exactly the problem. While Hamas presented itself as a “resistance alternative”, their current tactics suggest that the true objective is for Hamas to replace the current Palestinian Authority on the negotiations table, and to carry on in the project of the people they have been calling traitors since 1993. (But of course, and for some reason, they are convinced that they will be able to achieve better results!)

    “what if their main weapon is belief”
    …Not to undermine any populations’ will and sacrifice , but “belief” without a strategical plan and devices to execute is good for moral gains only (hey a 1000 people dies, but they believed…so it should not be considered a loss!) – a stage that we ought to have surpassed by now.
    “Fight them with your nails” speeches (to quote the late King Hussein in 1967) are great for Friday prayers and demonstrations, but on the ground you need a plan – one that takes into account your environment and resources. That is when all the sacrifices and belief star being poured into an end-result.

    “Fighting …. for your honor and mine”
    There is nothing more disgraceful and shameful than helplessly watching the Palestinian people offer more sacrifices – arbitrary sacrifices that will not even lead to political gains, let alone ground gains even on the long haul.(Although as I said above I hope this is not the case). I hardly feel any honour and pride when I watch my people easily targeted.

    “Don’t be like the the Druze leader Walid Junblat”
    This also part of the risk I took (although I was hoping for comparisons to the Saudi and Jordanian Kings (and really fearing a comparison to Salleh Gallab)). I clearly explained why the Hizballah colloquial does not apply here at all. To quote Hizballah “The era of defeats is over”. And as a supporter of the resistance path – I demand a resistance project that is capable of Hizballah-like results – at least.

    Laila,
    Finding a feasible form and tactic for the resistance is the role of those who claim to be the guardians of the resistance project. It should not be breaking news for Hamas that Egypt and Jordan are not going to support it (Again, blaming external forces for the failure of your plan – even though the “elements” are beyond obvious).
    The effort itself is not the thing being questioned here, but unfortunately the size of sacrifices alone does not make for a successful resistance.

    There is no reason to assume that my argument denies that the armed-struggle and the resistance is the only way to go. On the contrary, my only point is when is our armed-struggle would mount to a level where it can be considered serious, beyond speeches and masked-men parades??

    The two examples of resistance you mentioned back up my point completely:
    The Zeevi operation is exactly the type of resistance I am talking about: a well-planned high-impact operation (casualties: Zionists:1 Palestinians: 0) with actual results and very few press-conferences to celebrate it. A painful hit to the Zionists on every level.
    The 1987 Intifada was the prime example of a popular resistance movement WITH MINIMAL RESOURCES. There was no Kalashinkovs waving, no home-made rockets and no men in uniform. That does not mean that the Zionists did not punish it brutally (again, that’s never an issue). The timing and tactics lead to considerable gains to the Palestinian cause – moral AND materialistic gains . (And that can be a debate for some other time). Either way, it is illogical to stage comparisons (whether to Hizballah or other former examples from the first intifada to the London blitz and Stalingrad) when the the circumstances and environment they are taking place in are drastically different. The political leadership’s role is to evaluate those circumstances and devise an appropriate strategy to deal with it.

    “another stab in the back of resistance”
    “don’t participate in killing the only hope”
    is simply emotional rhetoric (another form of futile resistance)
    better saved for Jazeera screaming guests and Hamzah Mansour
    The argument was just a different perspective ….

  • laila

    Musa,

    I want to mainly reply at your final emotional labeling. its said somewhere else but the way people are attacking Hamas out of value vs. effort debate to bring down Hamas model of resistance is the one emotional stand for me.

    First, you are bonding to old success stories and only accepting them as the only method of liberation based on forms of emotional attachments to those models forgetting that el jabha is idle ever since that last operation and the first intifada ended with Oslo.

    you are not analyzing at any level the real parameters of what Hamas is facing, you are not measuring its effort of resistance in terms of ability vs. outcome. you are comparing hamas to a utopia scenario where its not limited with siege and people with other visions for liberation, aka peace supporters.

    Supporting the resistance model Hamas is providing is not at any level an end to resistance road, but for both, those who want to bring a new more efficient model or those who want to sit on the table and negotiate supporting hamas is their only playing card.

    If i want now to start a whole new visionary resistance model and techniques i must be part of this just cause womb, i must defend for its people right of resistance, i must defend everyone in my country right of liberating their occupied land. if i am to start a new resistance method for the mere idea of we who did that and that are better, then trust me you are harming the cause more than Hamas are doing, or like them when they try to own the resistance. and thats a major strategic mistake that kills any struggle notion. hence supporting hamas right to exist and resist is a must for any resistance expert.

    now for the other case, if i am on negotiations table, supporting militant resistance and its people is a strong card to use to get more, a reason to push israel toward what we want not what they want. if i have nothing to lose because iam giving up my right in resistance (because the rockets are not strong enough) then i should not expect anything from negoations because i already give up everything and let down those who still beleive in liberation.

    i am telling you all the above to highlight that supporting resistance even in its current form is not an emotional choice, its rather a very strategic decision for the best of the Palestinian cause. because no one else is providing another model and because this is part of the palestaniain struggle life and its ought to be respected just like all others ways we did to get our right in the past.

    This is what Hamas could do, this is what they are able or want to do maybe. All of us who think we can do better should provide and work for a real alternative, first by supporting what there is now, not start another attack on them out of our spare intellectual space. no one sitting in the comfort of their own houses is allowed to preach to people with sincere faith- regardless the obvious single eyed revolutionary eye, because no matter how little and wrong you think they are giving, they are giving way more than any of us is giving.

    and we cant just because some are anti-hamas life vision to oppose its resistance model, that way of trying to be critical is what called emotional argument and way of thinking.

  • laila

    Musa,

    I want to mainly reply at your final emotional labeling. its said somewhere else but the way people are attacking Hamas out of value vs. effort debate to bring down Hamas model of resistance is the one emotional stand for me.

    First, you are bonding to old success stories and only accepting them as the only method of liberation based on forms of emotional attachments to those models forgetting that el jabha is idle ever since that last operation and the first intifada ended with Oslo.

    you are not analyzing at any level the real parameters of what Hamas is facing, you are not measuring its effort of resistance in terms of ability vs. outcome. you are comparing hamas to a utopia scenario where its not limited with siege and people with other visions for liberation, aka peace supporters.

    Supporting the resistance model Hamas is providing is not at any level an end to resistance road, but for both, those who want to bring a new more efficient model or those who want to sit on the table and negotiate supporting hamas is their only playing card.

    If i want now to start a whole new visionary resistance model and techniques i must be part of this just cause womb, i must defend for its people right of resistance, i must defend everyone in my country right of liberating their occupied land. if i am to start a new resistance method for the mere idea of we who did that and that are better, then trust me you are harming the cause more than Hamas are doing, or like them when they try to own the resistance. and thats a major strategic mistake that kills any struggle notion. hence supporting hamas right to exist and resist is a must for any resistance expert.

    now for the other case, if i am on negotiations table, supporting militant resistance and its people is a strong card to use to get more, a reason to push israel toward what we want not what they want. if i have nothing to lose because iam giving up my right in resistance (because the rockets are not strong enough) then i should not expect anything from negoations because i already give up everything and let down those who still beleive in liberation.

    i am telling you all the above to highlight that supporting resistance even in its current form is not an emotional choice, its rather a very strategic decision for the best of the Palestinian cause. because no one else is providing another model and because this is part of the palestaniain struggle life and its ought to be respected just like all others ways we did to get our right in the past.

    This is what Hamas could do, this is what they are able or want to do maybe. All of us who think we can do better should provide and work for a real alternative, first by supporting what there is now, not start another attack on them out of our spare intellectual space. no one sitting in the comfort of their own houses is allowed to preach to people with sincere faith- regardless the obvious single eyed revolutionary eye, because no matter how little and wrong you think they are giving, they are giving way more than any of us is giving.

    and we cant just because some are anti-hamas life vision to oppose its resistance model, that way of trying to be critical is what called emotional argument and way of thinking.

  • Musa

    “accepting them as the only method of liberation based on forms of emotional attachments”
    No. I am embracing them based on their relative success.

    “comparing hamas to a utopia scenario”
    No. I am just demanding that at this point any resistance movement understands its strengths and weaknesses (and the surrounding situation), then behave accordingly. Hamas’ model wants to wipe the Zionist state from existence using home-made weapons (at least according to their claims). Supporting such a project is not fair to those asked to execute it and to sacrifice their lives for it.

    Be assured that it is way much easier “to sit in the comfort of one’s house” shed a tear and tie a black ribbon around the arm to show support for any resistance project no matter how ill-prepared it is, than to question it.

    It is much harder (and risky as you noticed) to take a step back and wonder if all those martyrs were put in the best position by their leadership to succeed. If the chances of success were non-existent then what is required is an amendment of the programme.

    “supporting hamas right to exist and resist is a must for any resistance expert”
    Nobody is denying Hamas the right to exist or resist. It is Hamas’ obligation to put itself in a situation where it can exist and resist. Choosing to take control of the government while holding the resistance banner is unfeasible in the above mentioned conditions. Being in charge and fighting at the same time will lead to such results. Again, one must understand his limitations and margins of movements and act accordingly – leaving a space for maneuvering.

    “if i am on negotiations table, supporting militant resistance and its people is a strong card to use”
    An overplayed point but glad you brought it up . What do you think your negotiations stance is going to be when your “last hope” of resistance gets crushed to oblivion? How much did Hamas do to assure that it arrives (or puts other Palestinians) at the negotiations table in a strong favourable situation? (Here comes the “circumstances excuse again). On the weakness scale (and even before the latest massacre) the Hamas form resistance improves the weakness of the Palestinian negotiator from “extremely weak” to “very weak”.

    “no one else is providing another model and because this is part of the palestaniain struggle”
    Maybe it is time to start considering a more sophisticated long-term model beyond “fighting for the fact of fighting” (almoshrakah min ajil almosharakah). “This is what Hamas could do” is just not good enough. Faith has nothing to do with it. It is a naive political leadership that is currently relying on wailing as its main tool. Maybe it is time the Palestinian people stop offering victims for the sole reason of “keeping the resistance going” – because honestly those sitting in the comfort of their homes have no right to ask those making sacrifices to keep taking hits so that we can FEEL “proud and honourable”.

  • Musa

    “accepting them as the only method of liberation based on forms of emotional attachments”
    No. I am embracing them based on their relative success.

    “comparing hamas to a utopia scenario”
    No. I am just demanding that at this point any resistance movement understands its strengths and weaknesses (and the surrounding situation), then behave accordingly. Hamas’ model wants to wipe the Zionist state from existence using home-made weapons (at least according to their claims). Supporting such a project is not fair to those asked to execute it and to sacrifice their lives for it.

    Be assured that it is way much easier “to sit in the comfort of one’s house” shed a tear and tie a black ribbon around the arm to show support for any resistance project no matter how ill-prepared it is, than to question it.

    It is much harder (and risky as you noticed) to take a step back and wonder if all those martyrs were put in the best position by their leadership to succeed. If the chances of success were non-existent then what is required is an amendment of the programme.

    “supporting hamas right to exist and resist is a must for any resistance expert”
    Nobody is denying Hamas the right to exist or resist. It is Hamas’ obligation to put itself in a situation where it can exist and resist. Choosing to take control of the government while holding the resistance banner is unfeasible in the above mentioned conditions. Being in charge and fighting at the same time will lead to such results. Again, one must understand his limitations and margins of movements and act accordingly – leaving a space for maneuvering.

    “if i am on negotiations table, supporting militant resistance and its people is a strong card to use”
    An overplayed point but glad you brought it up . What do you think your negotiations stance is going to be when your “last hope” of resistance gets crushed to oblivion? How much did Hamas do to assure that it arrives (or puts other Palestinians) at the negotiations table in a strong favourable situation? (Here comes the “circumstances excuse again). On the weakness scale (and even before the latest massacre) the Hamas form resistance improves the weakness of the Palestinian negotiator from “extremely weak” to “very weak”.

    “no one else is providing another model and because this is part of the palestaniain struggle”
    Maybe it is time to start considering a more sophisticated long-term model beyond “fighting for the fact of fighting” (almoshrakah min ajil almosharakah). “This is what Hamas could do” is just not good enough. Faith has nothing to do with it. It is a naive political leadership that is currently relying on wailing as its main tool. Maybe it is time the Palestinian people stop offering victims for the sole reason of “keeping the resistance going” – because honestly those sitting in the comfort of their homes have no right to ask those making sacrifices to keep taking hits so that we can FEEL “proud and honourable”.

  • Fresh

    Musa, how can you say that sacrifice is useless when all peace treaties – including the Oslo initiative – are signed with blood ink from the straggle that came before? In the modern age, look at Belfast, South Africa, Yemen, and even the United States of America where the declaration of independence came six years after the Boston Massacre which was in abstract British soldiers killing unfriendly American crowds!

    I don’t want to go by each of the points and explain it again. This is a time of unity, not controversy. The fact on the ground is that there is a war going on, and this war has two sides, what is named Israel, and other side is represented by Palestinians.

    The results of this war will affect not only our brothers in Palestine, but also it will affect us Jordanians. This means that – like it or not – you are part of the war. You can’t stand on the side lines and write commentaries because by writing a piece that undermines one side, you automatically appear to be routing for the other.

    If I was in your shoes I would focus on raising moral and routing for your team. Any analysis you want to do you can do in the aftermath of the battles after the smoke clears. And while you have already declared Palestinians – represented by Hamas- as losers, I urge you to have some patience, because this is only a chapter of the resistance, not the finale scene.

  • Fresh

    Musa, how can you say that sacrifice is useless when all peace treaties – including the Oslo initiative – are signed with blood ink from the straggle that came before? In the modern age, look at Belfast, South Africa, Yemen, and even the United States of America where the declaration of independence came six years after the Boston Massacre which was in abstract British soldiers killing unfriendly American crowds!

    I don’t want to go by each of the points and explain it again. This is a time of unity, not controversy. The fact on the ground is that there is a war going on, and this war has two sides, what is named Israel, and other side is represented by Palestinians.

    The results of this war will affect not only our brothers in Palestine, but also it will affect us Jordanians. This means that – like it or not – you are part of the war. You can’t stand on the side lines and write commentaries because by writing a piece that undermines one side, you automatically appear to be routing for the other.

    If I was in your shoes I would focus on raising moral and routing for your team. Any analysis you want to do you can do in the aftermath of the battles after the smoke clears. And while you have already declared Palestinians – represented by Hamas- as losers, I urge you to have some patience, because this is only a chapter of the resistance, not the finale scene.

  • Abdullah Ikhmies

    Musa!!! are you Zionist?!! cos really i need to know!!! please don’t take it personal!! Sorry! just I’ve doubts.
    Liala, Mazen, and fresh well done guys 🙂 Keep believe in Palestine and our rights there

  • Abdullah Ikhmies

    Musa!!! are you Zionist?!! cos really i need to know!!! please don’t take it personal!! Sorry! just I’ve doubts.
    Liala, Mazen, and fresh well done guys 🙂 Keep believe in Palestine and our rights there

  • Musa

    Fresh,
    Same typical mistake: Applying former examples with disregard to the circumstances and environment. If you believe that the previous sacrifices lead to the Oslo accords, then where do you see Hamas’ version of the resistance leading? Do you think that Hamas’ version of resistance is putting the Palestinian negotiator at a better position? Is it capable of reaching the terms of the Oslo accords that it repeatedly called treason? So all the previous victims “wrote with their blood” (you have to love Friday prayers language infiltrating serious discussions) to write Oslo, where is the Gaza massacre blood leading? Another peace conference or towards freeing Palestine? That is EXACTLY the question that any carrier of a resistance project should be asked…

    If you believe this is the time of unity then you should be among the first to criticise Hamas’: first for separating themself from the Palestinian struggle for years while claiming that their version of government and resistance is the only one capable of achieving goals (freeing all the land of Palestine), and second (in the news today) for refusing to attend the Palestinian factions meetings. Preach “time of unity” to Mohammad Nazzal please.

    “by writing a piece that undermines one side, you automatically appear to be routing for the other.”
    Excuse my language, but that is just pure nonsense. By crticising Hamas’ government policies I am neither siding by the Abbass authority or the Zionists.

    I am questioning Hamas’ choices because I am completely aware that it will affect me as a Palestinian – whether I am living in Jordan or elsewhere.

    On the contrary, it is much easier to blindly support a faction– that preaches resistance and then shows up that ill-prepared and without a plan – when it is not you and your family members under the bombardment.

    “If I was in your shoes I would focus on raising moral and routing for your team”
    As much as I like the players, I will not root for a team that promised a victory and proceeded to get routed 385+ to 3. That is what is known as the ignorant sports fan. If the team shows up unprepared (specially after promising the world cup) then the management, coaches, and league officials should be questioned.

    “I urge you to have some patience”
    During the invasion of Iraq, I could not wait for the ground operations to begin either. Just like I did in the first gulf war.
    Assuming that the people of Gaza who has been under siege for months, and has been under heavy shelling for days is capable of withstanding a ground attack is very selfish of you. You are practically asking the people of Gaza to offer more victims and suffer more casualties so that you can feel “proud and honorouble”.
    Once again consider the “elements” before making emotional decisions. What prompts you to believe that in the case of an infantry incursion that Hamas is capable of a “Hizballah-like” battle?

    Unless Hamas’ plan all along was to rely on divine intervention to end the occupation – which as ridiculous as it sounds – could be the only Hamas plan.

  • Musa

    Fresh,
    Same typical mistake: Applying former examples with disregard to the circumstances and environment. If you believe that the previous sacrifices lead to the Oslo accords, then where do you see Hamas’ version of the resistance leading? Do you think that Hamas’ version of resistance is putting the Palestinian negotiator at a better position? Is it capable of reaching the terms of the Oslo accords that it repeatedly called treason? So all the previous victims “wrote with their blood” (you have to love Friday prayers language infiltrating serious discussions) to write Oslo, where is the Gaza massacre blood leading? Another peace conference or towards freeing Palestine? That is EXACTLY the question that any carrier of a resistance project should be asked…

    If you believe this is the time of unity then you should be among the first to criticise Hamas’: first for separating themself from the Palestinian struggle for years while claiming that their version of government and resistance is the only one capable of achieving goals (freeing all the land of Palestine), and second (in the news today) for refusing to attend the Palestinian factions meetings. Preach “time of unity” to Mohammad Nazzal please.

    “by writing a piece that undermines one side, you automatically appear to be routing for the other.”
    Excuse my language, but that is just pure nonsense. By crticising Hamas’ government policies I am neither siding by the Abbass authority or the Zionists.

    I am questioning Hamas’ choices because I am completely aware that it will affect me as a Palestinian – whether I am living in Jordan or elsewhere.

    On the contrary, it is much easier to blindly support a faction– that preaches resistance and then shows up that ill-prepared and without a plan – when it is not you and your family members under the bombardment.

    “If I was in your shoes I would focus on raising moral and routing for your team”
    As much as I like the players, I will not root for a team that promised a victory and proceeded to get routed 385+ to 3. That is what is known as the ignorant sports fan. If the team shows up unprepared (specially after promising the world cup) then the management, coaches, and league officials should be questioned.

    “I urge you to have some patience”
    During the invasion of Iraq, I could not wait for the ground operations to begin either. Just like I did in the first gulf war.
    Assuming that the people of Gaza who has been under siege for months, and has been under heavy shelling for days is capable of withstanding a ground attack is very selfish of you. You are practically asking the people of Gaza to offer more victims and suffer more casualties so that you can feel “proud and honorouble”.
    Once again consider the “elements” before making emotional decisions. What prompts you to believe that in the case of an infantry incursion that Hamas is capable of a “Hizballah-like” battle?

    Unless Hamas’ plan all along was to rely on divine intervention to end the occupation – which as ridiculous as it sounds – could be the only Hamas plan.

  • Musa ,,excellent analysis of our choices and mechanism to achieve our goals,
    right at this minutes the players in in the palestinian struggle to achieve liberation and independence are two main faction,the defunct and corrupted Abass collaborationist camp ;one that has given up on the resistance by all it’s forms and relied heavily on only “negotiations” is going bring about “peace”, and the Hamas that it’ is up tell this minute advocate resistence and arm struggle to achieve independence,
    Now the question that arises ,why should Palestinians achieve unity with a camp that has all along worked and hindered palestinian struggle for the last 20 years.
    I really believe that Abass and his thugs and their spies should prosecuted and punched for their collaboration with our enemy. If we look at all liberation movement around the world ,be it the French resistance to Nazi occupation of Franc or the Algerian revolution in Algiers or the even the American revolution ,the faith of the people that collaborated with occupation power was death ,in matter of facts ,the french resistance were much brutal collaborationist were treated brutally and they were executed in front of their family members ,why we Palestinians should except thugs and spies differently?

  • Musa ,,excellent analysis of our choices and mechanism to achieve our goals,
    right at this minutes the players in in the palestinian struggle to achieve liberation and independence are two main faction,the defunct and corrupted Abass collaborationist camp ;one that has given up on the resistance by all it’s forms and relied heavily on only “negotiations” is going bring about “peace”, and the Hamas that it’ is up tell this minute advocate resistence and arm struggle to achieve independence,
    Now the question that arises ,why should Palestinians achieve unity with a camp that has all along worked and hindered palestinian struggle for the last 20 years.
    I really believe that Abass and his thugs and their spies should prosecuted and punched for their collaboration with our enemy. If we look at all liberation movement around the world ,be it the French resistance to Nazi occupation of Franc or the Algerian revolution in Algiers or the even the American revolution ,the faith of the people that collaborated with occupation power was death ,in matter of facts ,the french resistance were much brutal collaborationist were treated brutally and they were executed in front of their family members ,why we Palestinians should except thugs and spies differently?

  • Tala

    well Israel & the US have one problem with Hamas, its that Hamas as a government refuses to admit Israel’s existence as a state.

    Qassam rockets are just an excuse.

    http://www.usip.org/pubs/usipeace_briefings/2006/0310_brom.html

  • Tala

    well Israel & the US have one problem with Hamas, its that Hamas as a government refuses to admit Israel’s existence as a state.

    Qassam rockets are just an excuse.

    http://www.usip.org/pubs/usipeace_briefings/2006/0310_brom.html

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